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	<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on A Legislative Solution For Cross-Border Defamation Claims by Matthew Lawn</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/cases/a-legislative-solution-for-cross-border-defamation-claims/#comment-43542</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Lawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I doubt it's just you, John. There seems to be no shortage of suspicion of American motives. Certainly some of those suspicions are justified, but what we have here is not among them. 

What we have here is an American attempt to avoid having foreign positions (vis a vis free speech)imposed on us. If I read you correctly, you are referring to Dr Ehrenfeld's 'position' regarding the funding of terrorism (which was published in NY, by the way.) That is the content of one instance of expression. And that is where I think you miss the point. It is not the content, but the expression itself that is at issue. Specifically that an American can express herself in accordance with American free speech protections and, while those offended can bring suit abroad if they wish, a judgment against her (so obtained) cannot be enforced in NY.

I do share your exasperation at the title of the Act. Why not simply "Libel Protection Act"? The whole buzzword/bandwagon nature of this trend to shove nonsense down eveyones throat by hiding behind the word 'terrorism' is, well, the last refuge of too many scoundrels today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I doubt it&#8217;s just you, John. There seems to be no shortage of suspicion of American motives. Certainly some of those suspicions are justified, but what we have here is not among them. </p>
<p>What we have here is an American attempt to avoid having foreign positions (vis a vis free speech)imposed on us. If I read you correctly, you are referring to Dr Ehrenfeld&#8217;s &#8216;position&#8217; regarding the funding of terrorism (which was published in NY, by the way.) That is the content of one instance of expression. And that is where I think you miss the point. It is not the content, but the expression itself that is at issue. Specifically that an American can express herself in accordance with American free speech protections and, while those offended can bring suit abroad if they wish, a judgment against her (so obtained) cannot be enforced in NY.</p>
<p>I do share your exasperation at the title of the Act. Why not simply &#8220;Libel Protection Act&#8221;? The whole buzzword/bandwagon nature of this trend to shove nonsense down eveyones throat by hiding behind the word &#8216;terrorism&#8217; is, well, the last refuge of too many scoundrels today.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rome I Reg. Adopted (and Other Results of the JHA Council Session of 5-6 June 2008) by Regulamentul Roma I a fost adoptat &#171; Dreptul comunitar al afacerilor. blog</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/legislation/rome-i/rome-i-reg-adopted-and-other-results-of-the-jha-council-session-of-5-6-june-2008/#comment-43402</link>
		<dc:creator>Regulamentul Roma I a fost adoptat &#171; Dreptul comunitar al afacerilor. blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Un comentariu istoric al problemei, interesant, gasiti aici. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Un comentariu istoric al problemei, interesant, gasiti aici. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rome I Reg. Adopted (and Other Results of the JHA Council Session of 5-6 June 2008) by Giorgio Buono</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/legislation/rome-i/rome-i-reg-adopted-and-other-results-of-the-jha-council-session-of-5-6-june-2008/#comment-42310</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio Buono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As regards Council/Commission documents dealing with consumer contracts, I have spotted some (by title only) on the Council's Register. Given the end of the codecision procedure, all the documents will be made accessible in a few weeks, but I think you can file an application to access a specific one also in advance. Useful information, stating the position of Member States and institutions on specific issues, can be also found in the "Summary of discussions" which are prepared from time to time during the procedure by the Committee on Civil Law Matters: they are available on the Council's Register as well.

As regards the inclusion of downloading (and, in general, of contracts concluded and/or performed online) in the material scope of application of Art. 6, the issue was largely debated at the time of the conversion of the Brussels Convention into Reg. 44/2001 (the Commission organized a public hearing, the Hague Conference a number of meetings and round tables, etc.). I am not so updated on the matter, but I feel that this aspect gained much less attention in the procedure that has led to the Rome I Reg., since the basic decision was to follow the approach of art. 15(1)(c) of Brussels I Reg.
At a first look, I do not think that the exception provided by Art. 6(4)(a) would cover such kind of e-contracts.
In addition to articles and books that have been written on the matter in the last decade, I would like to point out a paper written by Peter Lenda (Norwegian Research Center for Computers and Law) in the frame of the "E-CLIP" Project (Electronic Commerce Legal Issues Platform): "The choice-of-law in European electronic commerce contracts".
It can be found, along with other works on the same topic (such as the one by M. Foss and L.A. Bygrave), on the project's site http://www.eclip.org (Research Papers/Private International Law).

p.s. in the latest round-up of PIL articles compiled by Martin George, see also, on Art. 15(1)(c) Brussels I reg., the recent work by Y. Farah, ‘Allocation of jurisdiction and the internet in EU law’ (2008) 33 European Law Review 257 - 270.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As regards Council/Commission documents dealing with consumer contracts, I have spotted some (by title only) on the Council&#8217;s Register. Given the end of the codecision procedure, all the documents will be made accessible in a few weeks, but I think you can file an application to access a specific one also in advance. Useful information, stating the position of Member States and institutions on specific issues, can be also found in the &#8220;Summary of discussions&#8221; which are prepared from time to time during the procedure by the Committee on Civil Law Matters: they are available on the Council&#8217;s Register as well.</p>
<p>As regards the inclusion of downloading (and, in general, of contracts concluded and/or performed online) in the material scope of application of Art. 6, the issue was largely debated at the time of the conversion of the Brussels Convention into Reg. 44/2001 (the Commission organized a public hearing, the Hague Conference a number of meetings and round tables, etc.). I am not so updated on the matter, but I feel that this aspect gained much less attention in the procedure that has led to the Rome I Reg., since the basic decision was to follow the approach of art. 15(1)(c) of Brussels I Reg.<br />
At a first look, I do not think that the exception provided by Art. 6(4)(a) would cover such kind of e-contracts.<br />
In addition to articles and books that have been written on the matter in the last decade, I would like to point out a paper written by Peter Lenda (Norwegian Research Center for Computers and Law) in the frame of the &#8220;E-CLIP&#8221; Project (Electronic Commerce Legal Issues Platform): &#8220;The choice-of-law in European electronic commerce contracts&#8221;.<br />
It can be found, along with other works on the same topic (such as the one by M. Foss and L.A. Bygrave), on the project&#8217;s site <a href="http://www.eclip.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.eclip.org</a> (Research Papers/Private International Law).</p>
<p>p.s. in the latest round-up of PIL articles compiled by Martin George, see also, on Art. 15(1)(c) Brussels I reg., the recent work by Y. Farah, ‘Allocation of jurisdiction and the internet in EU law’ (2008) 33 European Law Review 257 - 270.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Round-Up of Articles Recently Published by Roundup of Conflicts Papers &#171; Renvoi: Lex Situs Conflictus</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/articles/a-round-up-of-articles-recently-published/#comment-42250</link>
		<dc:creator>Roundup of Conflicts Papers &#171; Renvoi: Lex Situs Conflictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  For the readers who don&#8217;t regularly read www.conflictoflaws.net, I wanted to point out a post with a roundup of conflict of laws articles published in the past several months. While most papers [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;]  For the readers who don&#8217;t regularly read <a href="http://www.conflictoflaws.net," rel="nofollow">http://www.conflictoflaws.net,</a> I wanted to point out a post with a roundup of conflict of laws articles published in the past several months. While most papers [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rome I Reg. Adopted (and Other Results of the JHA Council Session of 5-6 June 2008) by Geraldi</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/legislation/rome-i/rome-i-reg-adopted-and-other-results-of-the-jha-council-session-of-5-6-june-2008/#comment-41993</link>
		<dc:creator>Geraldi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 12:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: you're doing a laudable job. Your entries on Rome I are very helpful. 

Second: is there a document or article where the Commsision or an expert explains more about the preference for choice of law on consumercontracts? Depecage was a hot item during the greenbookperiod; a lot of people didn'nt want that to continue in ROME I. The commission had the guts to skip the choice of law with consumercontract. The Ep amended this and put it back in. The only explanation I can find, is the argument that its unfair for the en bad for the internal market. In mine opinion its a huge difference. It's hard to believe that the commission agreed as easiliy as it look likes. 

Third: what do you think of the first exception of article 6 paragraph 4 (a contract for the supply of services where the services are to be supplied to the consumer exclusively in a country other than that in which he has his habitualresidence) 

This will undermine legal certainty as some digital processes as dwonloading are hard to define. It's hard to qualify terms like downloading. It could be qualified as supply of service but also as supply of goods. One ay or the other downloading should be protected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: you&#8217;re doing a laudable job. Your entries on Rome I are very helpful. </p>
<p>Second: is there a document or article where the Commsision or an expert explains more about the preference for choice of law on consumercontracts? Depecage was a hot item during the greenbookperiod; a lot of people didn&#8217;nt want that to continue in ROME I. The commission had the guts to skip the choice of law with consumercontract. The Ep amended this and put it back in. The only explanation I can find, is the argument that its unfair for the en bad for the internal market. In mine opinion its a huge difference. It&#8217;s hard to believe that the commission agreed as easiliy as it look likes. </p>
<p>Third: what do you think of the first exception of article 6 paragraph 4 (a contract for the supply of services where the services are to be supplied to the consumer exclusively in a country other than that in which he has his habitualresidence) </p>
<p>This will undermine legal certainty as some digital processes as dwonloading are hard to define. It&#8217;s hard to qualify terms like downloading. It could be qualified as supply of service but also as supply of goods. One ay or the other downloading should be protected.</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Marriage Annulled for Lack of Virginity by Giorgio Buono</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/cases/french-marriage-annulled-for-lack-of-virginity/#comment-40897</link>
		<dc:creator>Giorgio Buono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The "blogDalloz" (a blog edited by the renowned French legal publisher) has a downloadable .pdf version of the judgment, and hosts two academic comments (in French), by Hugues Fulchiron (Director of the "Centre de droit de la famille" at the University of Lyon 3 "Jean Moulin") and Aline Cheynet de Beaupré (Maître de conférences at the University of Orléans).
Link: http://blog.dalloz.fr/blogdalloz/2008/06/le-mariage-et-l.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;blogDalloz&#8221; (a blog edited by the renowned French legal publisher) has a downloadable .pdf version of the judgment, and hosts two academic comments (in French), by Hugues Fulchiron (Director of the &#8220;Centre de droit de la famille&#8221; at the University of Lyon 3 &#8220;Jean Moulin&#8221;) and Aline Cheynet de Beaupré (Maître de conférences at the University of Orléans).<br />
Link: <a href="http://blog.dalloz.fr/blogdalloz/2008/06/le-mariage-et-l.html" rel="nofollow">http://blog.dalloz.fr/blogdalloz/2008/06/le-mariage-et-l.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on French Marriage Annulled for Lack of Virginity by Gilles Cuniberti</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/cases/french-marriage-annulled-for-lack-of-virginity/#comment-40872</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilles Cuniberti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your feeling is certainly shared by the vast majority of French women.

I am not aware of anybody raising the issue of coercion to the annullement, so my guess is that there was none. Indeed, the French Minister of Justice Rachida Dati (herself the daughter of North African emmigrants) argued that the proceedings were actually protective of the wife, as they were giving her a way out of that family in law. But she was quite isolated on the French scene, and was eventually forced to lodge an appeal against the judgment by President Sarkozy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your feeling is certainly shared by the vast majority of French women.</p>
<p>I am not aware of anybody raising the issue of coercion to the annullement, so my guess is that there was none. Indeed, the French Minister of Justice Rachida Dati (herself the daughter of North African emmigrants) argued that the proceedings were actually protective of the wife, as they were giving her a way out of that family in law. But she was quite isolated on the French scene, and was eventually forced to lodge an appeal against the judgment by President Sarkozy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on French Marriage Annulled for Lack of Virginity by Anna Gardella</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/cases/french-marriage-annulled-for-lack-of-virginity/#comment-40870</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Gardella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 13:36:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is bad news for the country of Simone de Bauvoir and of many other French intellectuals who fought for women's emancipation. The judgment raises a whole bunch of sensitive issues ranging from diversity integration; equality and pluralism and human rights. Isn't it "ironic" that the "Westners" go around the world to implement self-empowerment programs for women and are unable to hold their own values at home?
On what grounds did the court ascertain the wife's consent to divorce? Any doubt about social “coercion”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is bad news for the country of Simone de Bauvoir and of many other French intellectuals who fought for women&#8217;s emancipation. The judgment raises a whole bunch of sensitive issues ranging from diversity integration; equality and pluralism and human rights. Isn&#8217;t it &#8220;ironic&#8221; that the &#8220;Westners&#8221; go around the world to implement self-empowerment programs for women and are unable to hold their own values at home?<br />
On what grounds did the court ascertain the wife&#8217;s consent to divorce? Any doubt about social “coercion”?</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Agencies to Recognize Same Sex Unions by Richard Frimston</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/family/new-york-agencies-to-recognize-same-sex-unions/#comment-40447</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Frimston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 10:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/family/new-york-agencies-to-recognize-same-sex-unions/#comment-40447</guid>
		<description>I haven't seen any postings as to the possibly more important changes happening in California? http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.PDF

California Supreme Court ruling S147999</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen any postings as to the possibly more important changes happening in California? <a href="http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.PDF" rel="nofollow">http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/opinions/documents/S147999.PDF</a></p>
<p>California Supreme Court ruling S147999</p>
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		<title>Comment on New York Agencies to Recognize Same Sex Unions by Matteo M. Winkler</title>
		<link>http://www.conflictoflaws.net/2008/family/new-york-agencies-to-recognize-same-sex-unions/#comment-39908</link>
		<dc:creator>Matteo M. Winkler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 21:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had already noted such an important decision. Many thanks to Gilles and Giorgio for having made this reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had already noted such an important decision. Many thanks to Gilles and Giorgio for having made this reference.</p>
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